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> Instead, the production function of Science is manifested in its purest form at the department seminar and the science conference. It is in those rooms that initial evidence is shared, feedback is gathered, the scientific collective updates its priors, and new research directions are identified.

one of my favorite papers from undergrad is William Thurston's On Proof and Progress in mathematics (https://arxiv.org/pdf/math/9404236) which basically argues the knowledge of a discipline always rests in informal, shared knowledge in communities - or some argument of "getting science to diffuse within and across a subfield is basically all a communication problem / based on the shared knowledge of an existing community"

> At first I was highly suspicious of this process. I would doubt whether a certain

idea was really established. But I found that I could ask people, and they could

produce explanations and proofs, or else refer me to other people or to written

sources that would give explanations and proofs. There were published theorems

that were generally known to be false, or where the proofs were generally known

to be incomplete. Mathematical knowledge and understanding were embedded in

the minds and in the social fabric of the community of people thinking about a particular topic. This knowledge was supported by written documents, but the

written documents were not really primary.

Feels like increasing consensus that knowledge is much less diffused through papers (or imperative to publish rewards minor contributions vs. larger projects) / that the formal artifact is increasingly obsolete. I do wonder if one of the more useful properties of language models as well will be use in translating across subfields or being able to refashion a paper written for one audience in the language of another subfield, or to do the sort of "normal science" / 'janitorial' work of making certain contributions accessible, usable, etc

Jordi Cabana's avatar

"The models may ask better questions and make more discoveries, but it only “becomes” science when those discoveries and insights are incorporated into our collective understanding."

In a way, it also requires that multiple people care. If I find something new, but only I care about its implications, it will likely not become science anymore than if it is in the weights of GPT-6.1

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